here you go kyle... more scattered thoughts as I listened than anything.
Note: I really actually like Mark Driscoll, although it doesn't really show here. I think we have a few slight differences in how we define: preaching & church.
I just have a difference of opinion... Preaching is totally necessary, but is MD really insisting we need a 30 minute (or longer) sermon during a church service. What about a small group Bible study that 'proclaims' God's word to those involved?
MD calls Jesus' response to Satan 'a sermon'..., but it doesn't at all resemble what he is doing right now. I would say that Jesus 'proclaimed God's truth.' I think we agree... MD just is REALLY passionate about the terms 'preaching' and 'sermons'.
(He's been yelling this entire time!) :) My feelings are getting hurt. :) Loved this line: "Seeker insensitivity is as hot as ever!"
I just can't call Acts 2 a sermon. I can call it preaching... but personally I have too much experience of a 'sermon' being expositional, topical, etc... and I don't see Peter doing that. I see him proclaiming Jesus Christ and the faith that comes through him..
Why did MD not use THE BIBLE to define the church? Really? He started quoting church fathers and reformers... but not THE BIBLE!!??
What constitutes a rightly gathered church? Great question... but he quoted Calvin, Lutheran/Oxford confession, Articles of Church of England, and more. The answers are good.. and I agree with what he is saying... but define it through the BIBLE!
He literally did not quote one verse to define his ecclesiology.
Focus on 'defining church'... It is a good thing to do. We need to define Church.
I agree with his ending: We are all called to the 'proclamation of the gospel of Jesus Christ.'
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here you go kyle... more scattered thoughts as I listened than anything.
Note: I really actually like Mark Driscoll, although it doesn't really show here. I think we have a few slight differences in how we define: preaching & church.
I just have a difference of opinion... Preaching is totally necessary, but is MD really insisting we need a 30 minute (or longer) sermon during a church service. What about a small group Bible study that 'proclaims' God's word to those involved?
MD calls Jesus' response to Satan 'a sermon'..., but it doesn't at all resemble what he is doing right now. I would say that Jesus 'proclaimed God's truth.' I think we agree... MD just is REALLY passionate about the terms 'preaching' and 'sermons'.
(He's been yelling this entire time!) :) My feelings are getting hurt. :)
Loved this line: "Seeker insensitivity is as hot as ever!"
I just can't call Acts 2 a sermon. I can call it preaching... but personally I have too much experience of a 'sermon' being expositional, topical, etc... and I don't see Peter doing that. I see him proclaiming Jesus Christ and the faith that comes through him..
Why did MD not use THE BIBLE to define the church? Really? He started quoting church fathers and reformers... but not THE BIBLE!!??
What constitutes a rightly gathered church? Great question... but he quoted Calvin, Lutheran/Oxford confession, Articles of Church of England, and more. The answers are good.. and I agree with what he is saying... but define it through the BIBLE!
He literally did not quote one verse to define his ecclesiology.
Focus on 'defining church'... It is a good thing to do. We need to define Church.
I agree with his ending: We are all called to the 'proclamation of the gospel of Jesus Christ.'
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