Yesterday at the end of our time I posed the question: "Can we do church without the Speaking, Teaching, & Preaching and only with true Jesus-like training?"
While no one stood up and said: "Pheaney you're a heretic for even suggesting that!"... I did get the vibe that most of us would have answered that question with a 'negative'... "We need STP AND Training" is what I was sensing.
Let me ask specifically about preaching. (Because in any group setting of any size there will be Speaking... and Teaching can most easily be switched to Jesus-like training.) But what is Preaching?
I followed up with this question: "So do we need a weekly sermon?" I immediately was given a round of "No's"...
So here is the million dollar question I've been thinking about all night... (And I'm up at 7AM posting)... What is the Biblical preaching that we NEED to do? How is that separated from the weekly sermon we currently do in America?
(If I misrepresented anything in our interactions please call me out!)
Friday, February 20, 2009
Monday, February 16, 2009
UPDATED: IMPORTANT FEBRUARY PALC INFO
PALC Partners:
PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING COMPLETELY AND VERY CAREFULLY.
Some stuff we talked about at our last PALC time at the Barn regarding FEBRUARY 2009:
1. Pheaney is bringing CJ's coffee (don't forget the half/half and sugar) for our next PALC and Steve is bringing goodies to snack on.
2. We're brown baggin' it again for lunch.
3. We've moved February's PALC to 2/19 at 8 AM.
4. Assignments for our normal meeting of PALC in February:
A. Memory verses—add John 3:22a to your list. Pheaney... please send everyone an update memory verse list.
B. Reading two chapters a day for the next 14 days, read through the book of Luke trying to discover the answers to this question: What was Jesus' strategy for making the most of his short life? Please make a few notes about what you discover as your the book of Luke and be ready to share with us.
C. Once you've completed #2 above... and ONLY after you've completed #2 above... then, over the remaining 14 days before our next PALC meeting on 2/19, I want you to read pages 17-70 of book, The Master Plan of Evangelism. Don't be thrown off by the word "Evangelism." I believe this book is mis-titled... So fear not...
5. I sent you all a video clip... via email... subject line: eye of the hunter. Be ready to share your responses to the questions I asked in that email. This will lead us into a discussion on HOW DO I DEVELOP A TRAINING SESSION?
6. We'll be checking out SOS chapters 7-8.
7. We'll be reporting back on any of the palc training we've done since our last meeting.
8. Bring your calendars... we'll try to schedule some time together with our families... giving special preference to Steve and Paul's schedule.
9. Bring your Bible, pen, GML book 1, and you may want to bring your laptop as well.
10. Here's a fun activity. Exchange the word "bar" with the word "church" in the following song lyrics.... and see how it fits with your ecclesiology (your understanding of the doctrine of the church). Seriously... try it.
I Love This Bar by Toby Keith
We got winners, we got losers
Chain smokers and boozers
And we got yuppies, we got bikers
We got thristy hitchhikers
And the girls next door dress up like movie stars
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
We got cowboys, we got truckers
Broken-hearted fools and suckers
And we got hustlers, we got fighters
Early birds and all-nighters
And the veterans talk about their battle scars
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
[Chorus:]
I love this bar
It's my kind of place
Just walkin' through the front door
Puts a big smile on my face
It ain't too far, come as you are
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
I've seen short skirts, we got high-techs
Blue-collar boys and rednecks
And we got lovers, lots of lookers
And I've even seen dancing girls and hookers
And we like to drink our beer from a mason jar
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
Yes I do
I like my truck (I like my truck)
I like my girlfriend (I like my girlfriend)
I like to take her out to dinner
I like a movie now and then
But I love this bar
It's my kind of place
Just trollin' around the dance floor
Puts a big smile on my face
No cover charge, come as you are
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
We got divorcees and a big bouncer man
An old jukebox and a real bad band
We got waitresses and we got barflies
A dumb-#$% and a wise-guy
If you get too drunk just sleep out in your car
Reason number 672 why
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
Play it on out boys
Beer-thirty's over
Got to take it on home
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
I just love it
Am I the only one that sees some profound New Testament connection here?????
BA
PS. What happens when a man starts to think...
http://cupojoewithbill.blogspot.com
PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING COMPLETELY AND VERY CAREFULLY.
Some stuff we talked about at our last PALC time at the Barn regarding FEBRUARY 2009:
1. Pheaney is bringing CJ's coffee (don't forget the half/half and sugar) for our next PALC and Steve is bringing goodies to snack on.2. We're brown baggin' it again for lunch.
3. We've moved February's PALC to 2/19 at 8 AM.
4. Assignments for our normal meeting of PALC in February:
A. Memory verses—add John 3:22a to your list. Pheaney... please send everyone an update memory verse list.
B. Reading two chapters a day for the next 14 days, read through the book of Luke trying to discover the answers to this question: What was Jesus' strategy for making the most of his short life? Please make a few notes about what you discover as your the book of Luke and be ready to share with us.
C. Once you've completed #2 above... and ONLY after you've completed #2 above... then, over the remaining 14 days before our next PALC meeting on 2/19, I want you to read pages 17-70 of book, The Master Plan of Evangelism. Don't be thrown off by the word "Evangelism." I believe this book is mis-titled... So fear not...
5. I sent you all a video clip... via email... subject line: eye of the hunter. Be ready to share your responses to the questions I asked in that email. This will lead us into a discussion on HOW DO I DEVELOP A TRAINING SESSION?
6. We'll be checking out SOS chapters 7-8.
7. We'll be reporting back on any of the palc training we've done since our last meeting.
8. Bring your calendars... we'll try to schedule some time together with our families... giving special preference to Steve and Paul's schedule.
9. Bring your Bible, pen, GML book 1, and you may want to bring your laptop as well.
10. Here's a fun activity. Exchange the word "bar" with the word "church" in the following song lyrics.... and see how it fits with your ecclesiology (your understanding of the doctrine of the church). Seriously... try it.
I Love This Bar by Toby Keith
We got winners, we got losers
Chain smokers and boozers
And we got yuppies, we got bikers
We got thristy hitchhikers
And the girls next door dress up like movie stars
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
We got cowboys, we got truckers
Broken-hearted fools and suckers
And we got hustlers, we got fighters
Early birds and all-nighters
And the veterans talk about their battle scars
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
[Chorus:]
I love this bar
It's my kind of place
Just walkin' through the front door
Puts a big smile on my face
It ain't too far, come as you are
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
I've seen short skirts, we got high-techs
Blue-collar boys and rednecks
And we got lovers, lots of lookers
And I've even seen dancing girls and hookers
And we like to drink our beer from a mason jar
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
Yes I do
I like my truck (I like my truck)
I like my girlfriend (I like my girlfriend)
I like to take her out to dinner
I like a movie now and then
But I love this bar
It's my kind of place
Just trollin' around the dance floor
Puts a big smile on my face
No cover charge, come as you are
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
We got divorcees and a big bouncer man
An old jukebox and a real bad band
We got waitresses and we got barflies
A dumb-#$% and a wise-guy
If you get too drunk just sleep out in your car
Reason number 672 why
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
Play it on out boys
Beer-thirty's over
Got to take it on home
Hmm, hmm, hmm I love this bar
I just love it
Am I the only one that sees some profound New Testament connection here?????
BA
PS. What happens when a man starts to think...
http://cupojoewithbill.blogspot.com
Wednesday, February 4, 2009
Making it My Own
Last night I did the PGP for some member of our church. Tonight for my Sr. High Students. Then again thursday morning at NCHS FCA. Thursday night at church. Twice on Saturday. Wow!!!!! I'm tired just writing that. Any way. I've started to rip apart Bill's stuff. It is becoming my own. I love becoming a trainer. Things start to make sense.
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